157 and Frank

[Darren Thornton]

Well, ER did it again. We got another overhyped episode.
Ironically, it was still one of this season's finest moments. There was
a lot of stuff going on. Some of it was actually good.
Like so many, I'm sick of the PC police. They've been very bad
this time of year. Some folks have had enough. LSU's change to a
holiday tree lasted less than a day. I don't have a problem with
representing the other holidays. But let's do so without diluting any.
We had a nativity scene. I'm surprised that Neela participated.
She's already stated being of another faith. We got a live camel. Too
bad they didn't hire Ray Stevens to play the handler. Clyde did replace
Rudolph on the original version of "Santa Claus Is Watching You."
Why not put a veterinary hospital near County? One grossout moment was
seeing Dubenko in a hospital gown. There was getting the camel's
temperature. Did we really need that scene with Harold getting Neela's
phone? Morris was his usual self. It's hard to believe that
County doesn't routinely treat 300 or more patients in a day. This
figure went for a 24 hour period. What if the patient total represented
good ER episodes?
It's no surprise that he was briefly a sales representative. Do you
suppose that he paid for medical school by going door to door? What was
his product, encyclopedias, cookies, or Fuller Brushes?
I still can't figure out Julia. At least I don't think of
Michelle Dessler. That stone story is an old one. I have a 1962
Tennessee Ernie Ford album. His version preceded the song "If I Can
Help Somebody." It was from his ABC series.
What was with the New Age bit? I would have expected a ceremony
more fitting with Judeo Christian beliefs. That's still what most of
the staff probably believe. At least the service was voluntary.
What if it hadn't been interrupted? For once we had some
acknowledgment of the show's history. I'm sure if I'd agree about some
of the "special patients." There was a missed opportunity for a wild
card. One doctor could remember a face that never made it to air. Some
viewers would have been scrambling to find that episode.
It was nice to see Peter Fonda. The idea of institutionalizing
such children doesn't seem so common anymore. Roy Rogers and Dale Evans
got some credit for changing this trend. Their only biological child
together, Robin, had Downs Syndrome. Had the mother really kept this
secret so long? Thankfully, the father was going to make things right.
I'm a little confused. Pratt said something about his mother
dying young. We've seen how things went with his father. Who raised
him? Leon helped.
ER has been terrible about letting some storylines go too long.
Abby's trouble with the bottle is a big example. How many times has
she fallen off that wobbly wagon? Was MT hoping for an Emmy? Or do the
producers even care anymore? Would you have rather seen her showing
bipolar symptoms?
She's been incredibly selfish. I'd imagine that Neela's gonna
change the locks. That attack was cruel. Ray's accident wasn't Neela's
fault. What if she had told Luka about it? Hanging out like that was
wrong,
even if she'd been drinking Pepsi.
What's with all the separations? It would have been a disaster if
she'd went to Croatia. I half expected the brother to hit on her. He's
married. What if his wife had come along? Did he ever get sent to a
hotel?
Most likely Abby will emerge from some treatment center.
Perhaps Luka will get a divorce, and take Joe far away. Seeing John
Wells' name as director was a good sign. Getting him and GV more
involved would be another.
We saw another new toy. Could you imagine Morris working at
Toys R Us? Who else caught a patient named Tanner? Didn't Tony used
to live with that family? Harold got to sit on someone.
Sam had quite an adventure. At first I thought that the
ambulance caused the accident. Things remained a little murky. Was the
driver drunk, tired, or something else? We also learned of her bad
experiences with religion. Getting pregnant must have caused a stir.
What if she'd taken Alex to church?
Morris won the bet, thanks to heavy campaigning and cheating. Who
else would be happy about food poisoning? Some lawyers might rejoice.
Is there any progress in the writers' strike?
I hope all of you have a great holiday season. May the next
episodes be good ones! When will they air?

Sincerely,
Darren Thornton

[n***@indiana.edu]

On Dec 11, 1:05 am, ***@webtv.net (Darren Thornton) wrote:
One grossout moment was

Post by Darren Thornton
seeing Dubenko in a hospital gown. There was getting the camel's
temperature.

They weren't taking his temperature. They were getting a culture from
his mouth to check for germs. (So Dubenko could be given appropriate
antibiotics.)

Did we really need that scene with Harold getting Neela's

Post by Darren Thornton
phone? Morris was his usual self. It's hard to believe that
County doesn't routinely treat 300 or more patients in a day. This
figure went for a 24 hour period. What if the patient total represented
good ER episodes?
It's no surprise that he was briefly a sales representative. Do you
suppose that he paid for medical school by going door to door? What was
his product, encyclopedias, cookies, or Fuller Brushes?

Ummm... he left County to work as a pharmaceutical rep a couple of
seasons back.

Post by Darren Thornton
I'm a little confused. Pratt said something about his mother
dying young. We've seen how things went with his father. Who raised
him? Leon helped.

An Aunt, IIRC. (The early death of his mother was stated way back
when the character was first introduced.)

Naomi

[sharon]

Post by Darren Thornton
One grossout moment was

Post by Darren Thornton
seeing Dubenko in a hospital gown. There was getting the camel's
temperature.

They weren't taking his temperature. They were getting a culture from
his mouth to check for germs. (So Dubenko could be given appropriate
antibiotics.)

Which made no sense since a culture takes days to come back. It would've
been smarter to call the camel's vet or a zoo vet and ask what sorts of bugs
comprise the normal oral flora of a camel and go from there. Or figure that
a camel in captivity probably carries the same sorts of bugs that other
domestic animals do and use that. Of course, we would've missed out on the
'hilarity' of the attempts to get the culture.

Sharon

[Xena]

Post by Darren Thornton
One grossout moment was
seeing Dubenko in a hospital gown. There was getting the camel's
temperature.

Which brings up the question why this hospital?

Surely in the vast city of Chicago there have to be
a number of animal hospitals, veterinarian practices,
animal clinics who have much more experience and
expertise when it comes to this type of thing. And I would
bet that a number of those animal hospitals are open 24/7/3650.

After all when my cat needs medical attention I don't bring
it to the nearby human hospital, it goes to a
veterinarian.

I'm not in Chicago but around here i've got a number of
animal hospitals that are open 24/7/365.

[Dropping The Helicopter]

Post by Xena

Post by Darren Thornton
One grossout moment was
seeing Dubenko in a hospital gown. There was getting the camel's
temperature.

Which brings up the question why this hospital?
Surely in the vast city of Chicago there have to be
a number of animal hospitals, veterinarian practices,
animal clinics who have much more experience and
expertise when it comes to this type of thing. And I would
bet that a number of those animal hospitals are open 24/7/3650.
After all when my cat needs medical attention I don't bring
it to the nearby human hospital, it goes to a
veterinarian.
I'm not in Chicago but around here i've got a number of
animal hospitals that are open 24/7/365.

Nonononononoooo, you missed the COUGH "setup" COUGH. They were putting
on a live nativity in the ambulance bay for some reason and the camel
bit Dubenko (for all-too-obvious reasons). So they had to get a swab of
the camel's saliva too... well, at that point I started to get
lightheaded so I can't really recall why they needed it, but the point
is that the camel needed no medical attention.

And let us all give thanks for that, because if it did, I shudder to
think what sort of "lime in the coconut" moment TEERPTB would have
cooked up for us.

[Xena]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:49:12 GMT, Dropping The Helicopter

Post by Dropping The Helicopter
Nonononononoooo, you missed the COUGH "setup" COUGH. They were putting
on a live nativity in the ambulance bay for some reason and the camel
bit Dubenko (for all-too-obvious reasons). So they had to get a swab of
the camel's saliva too... well, at that point I started to get
lightheaded so I can't really recall why they needed it, but the point
is that the camel needed no medical attention.
And let us all give thanks for that, because if it did, I shudder to
think what sort of "lime in the coconut" moment TEERPTB would have
cooked up for us.

I saw that setup. What human hospital is set up to run ANY
tests on ANY ANIMAL? I have to think a human hospital won't be
able to do squat with that sample.

I would think any tests would have be run at an animal hospital
or vet practice.

[Ellen K Hursh]

Post by Xena

Post by Dropping The Helicopter
Nonononononoooo, you missed the COUGH "setup" COUGH. They were putting
on a live nativity in the ambulance bay for some reason and the camel
bit Dubenko (for all-too-obvious reasons). So they had to get a swab of
the camel's saliva too... well, at that point I started to get
lightheaded so I can't really recall why they needed it, but the point
is that the camel needed no medical attention.
And let us all give thanks for that, because if it did, I shudder to
think what sort of "lime in the coconut" moment TEERPTB would have
cooked up for us.

I saw that setup. What human hospital is set up to run ANY
tests on ANY ANIMAL? I have to think a human hospital won't be
able to do squat with that sample.
I would think any tests would have be run at an animal hospital
or vet practice.

Then again, *how* many animals have been treated at County? (The
chimplet and Romano's dog come immediately to mind, but I know
there've been others.)

[Sharon Too]

Post by Ellen K Hursh
Then again, *how* many animals have been treated at County? (The
chimplet and Romano's dog come immediately to mind, but I know
there've been others.)

There are hospitals who open up their diagnostic imaging equipment to
veterinarians after hours (legitimately) such as CT's. As for treating, it
just wouldn't happen. Hospitals are not equipped to deal with possible
zoonotic diseases that could be transferred from animal to human such as
leptospirosis, nor is the staff trained in proper animal handling. Animals
aren't humans. There's a reason some of our clients are physicians just as
veterinarians don't treat themselves.

The episode where Romano performs surgery on his own dog was ridiculous.
They don't have the proper veterinary equipment there for treatment, surgery
or monitoring not to mention medications. It was stupid.

-sharontoo

[Karen E.]

Post by Xena

Post by Darren Thornton
One grossout moment was
seeing Dubenko in a hospital gown. There was getting the camel's
temperature.

Which brings up the question why this hospital?
Surely in the vast city of Chicago there have to be
a number of animal hospitals, veterinarian practices,
animal clinics who have much more experience and
expertise when it comes to this type of thing. And I would
bet that a number of those animal hospitals are open 24/7/3650.
After all when my cat needs medical attention I don't bring
it to the nearby human hospital, it goes to a
veterinarian.
I'm not in Chicago but around here i've got a number of
animal hospitals that are open 24/7/365.

Besides that, they've got two well-respected zoos in the area, Lincoln
Park and Brookfield. I'm sure there are experts there they could have
consulted.