September 25th, 2008

Post by TBerk
Set yer TiVO, er VHS tape'n machines!
ER is coming back for one more season.
I know, because I saw it on TV. It must then be true.

And if you don't want to be spoiled about who did or did not survive
the blast -- if you see the ER promo begin while watching the
Olympics, turn the channel because they are going to show that ER
promo again and again.

Maybe...who saw it during the opening ceremony

KStahl

2008-08-09 14:12:40 UTC

Post by Maybe

Post by TBerk
Set yer TiVO, er VHS tape'n machines!
ER is coming back for one more season.
I know, because I saw it on TV. It must then be true.

Almost makes one wish that another network had been selected to carry
the Olympics.

Mark Nobles

2008-08-11 10:52:16 UTC

Post by Maybe

Post by TBerk
Set yer TiVO, er VHS tape'n machines!
ER is coming back for one more season.
I know, because I saw it on TV. It must then be true.

Almost makes one wish that another network had been selected to carry
the Olympics.

Well, considering the "selection" process is an auction, I guess the
other networks weren't as desperate for the promos. But then, why do
they delay starting their new shows until a month after the end of the
Olympics? They waste whatever interest they build with the promotion
they paid so much for.

KStahl

2008-08-11 23:07:12 UTC

Post by Mark Nobles

Post by Maybe

Post by TBerk
Set yer TiVO, er VHS tape'n machines!
ER is coming back for one more season.
I know, because I saw it on TV. It must then be true.

Almost makes one wish that another network had been selected to carry
the Olympics.

But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.

I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

sharon

2008-08-17 00:36:13 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that shows
which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least as
far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally found
the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here in the US
anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to the Olympics,
they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the Olympic network,
it had become instantly recognizable by the general public.

Sharon

KStahl

2008-08-17 01:13:06 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless
I have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays
is something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least
as far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally
found the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here
in the US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to
the Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

But wasn't there one set of Olympics that was broadcast by neither ABC
or NBC that didn't use that music? When many people expressed their
surprise, it was explained that the music itsef was not associated with
the Olympics, but was a network choice.

sharon

2008-08-17 14:24:03 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least as
far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally found
the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here in the
US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to the
Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

But wasn't there one set of Olympics that was broadcast by neither ABC or
NBC that didn't use that music? When many people expressed their surprise,
it was explained that the music itsef was not associated with the
Olympics, but was a network choice.

Yep, the music was chosen by ABC I believe, to use as the theme for their
network broadcasts of the games. ABC broadcast both summer and winter games
for many, many years and the music became synonymous with the Olympics in
the US. When ABC finally lost the broadcast rights, to CBS at first, I
think, they tried to go with different music, but the public wanted the old
music and they went back to the original piece.

Sharon

KStahl

2008-08-17 17:40:25 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that
has carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact,
unless I have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that
NBC plays is something that they own and is not the official theme
music of the Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that
tune because they hear it more often then the music used by other
networks in the few instances that they have covered the Olympics
instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums
and trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music
was also used by ABC when it was the network that carried the
Olympics at least as far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC
Sports which originally found the piece of classical music containing
this passage which, here in the US anyway, has become known so well.
When NBC got the rights to the Olympics, they used the same theme
because during ABC's reign as the Olympic network, it had become
instantly recognizable by the general public.
Sharon

Yep, the music was chosen by ABC I believe, to use as the theme for
their network broadcasts of the games. ABC broadcast both summer and
winter games for many, many years and the music became synonymous with
the Olympics in the US. When ABC finally lost the broadcast rights, to
CBS at first, I think, they tried to go with different music, but the
public wanted the old music and they went back to the original piece.
Sharon

That explains it then. In the end, it seems that there are good reasons
to go with what is recognized.

DawnK

2008-08-18 15:41:01 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless
I have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays
is something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums
and trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was
also used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at
least as far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which
originally found the piece of classical music containing this passage
which, here in the US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got
the rights to the Olympics, they used the same theme because during
ABC's reign as the Olympic network, it had become instantly
recognizable by the general public.
Sharon

Yep, the music was chosen by ABC I believe, to use as the theme for their
network broadcasts of the games. ABC broadcast both summer and winter
games for many, many years and the music became synonymous with the
Olympics in the US. When ABC finally lost the broadcast rights, to CBS
at first, I think, they tried to go with different music, but the public
wanted the old music and they went back to the original piece.
Sharon

That explains it then. In the end, it seems that there are good reasons to
go with what is recognized.

It just wouldn't be the Olympics without it! LOL!

Dawn

DawnK

2008-08-18 15:40:01 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least
as far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally
found the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here
in the US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to
the Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

But wasn't there one set of Olympics that was broadcast by neither ABC or
NBC that didn't use that music? When many people expressed their
surprise, it was explained that the music itsef was not associated with
the Olympics, but was a network choice.

Yep, the music was chosen by ABC I believe, to use as the theme for their
network broadcasts of the games. ABC broadcast both summer and winter
games for many, many years and the music became synonymous with the
Olympics in the US. When ABC finally lost the broadcast rights, to CBS at
first, I think, they tried to go with different music, but the public
wanted the old music and they went back to the original piece.
Sharon

I had no idea that John Williams wrote part of the music! Now that I
listen, I can tell the part that it is. If we watch Olympic coverage
tonight, I'll have to listen for it!

Dawn

Dimitrios Paskoudniakis

2008-08-22 13:57:12 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless
I have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays
is something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums
and trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was
also used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at
least as far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which
originally found the piece of classical music containing this passage
which, here in the US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got
the rights to the Olympics, they used the same theme because during
ABC's reign as the Olympic network, it had become instantly
recognizable by the general public.
Sharon

Yep, the music was chosen by ABC I believe, to use as the theme for their
network broadcasts of the games. ABC broadcast both summer and winter
games for many, many years and the music became synonymous with the
Olympics in the US. When ABC finally lost the broadcast rights, to CBS
at first, I think, they tried to go with different music, but the public
wanted the old music and they went back to the original piece.
Sharon

I had no idea that John Williams wrote part of the music! Now that I
listen, I can tell the part that it is. If we watch Olympic coverage
tonight, I'll have to listen for it!
Dawn

I think you and perhaps others are confused.

The classical Olympic theme is unchanged, and John Williams had no part in
it. The original is "Bugler's Dream", was written in 1958 by French
composer Leo Arnaud, and is part of a longer piece called "The Charge
Suite". It was first used in the Olympics for the 1968 Winter Games in
Grenoble, France.

Here is the original Olympics Theme, "Bugler's Dream":

For the 1984 Los Angeles Games, the Olympic Organizing Committee
commissioned John Williams to write an entirely new composition, "Olympic
Fanfare and Theme", which has none of the original theme in it.

Hear John Williams' theme in its entirety:

Some arrangements combine portions of the two compositions, but the original
compositions are separate and distinct.

Cory

2008-08-21 09:01:48 UTC

In article <9wWpk.30130$***@newsfe03.iad>, ***@nowhere.com
says...

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least as
far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally found
the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here in the
US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to the
Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

But wasn't there one set of Olympics that was broadcast by neither ABC or
NBC that didn't use that music? When many people expressed their surprise,
it was explained that the music itsef was not associated with the
Olympics, but was a network choice.

I'm NOT accusing you of lying, Sharon... just so we're clear on that,
but I have a hard time picturing CBS broadcasting the Olympics. It just
doesn't seem like something they could pull off successfully
(successfully meaning pulling in lots and lots of viewers)... MAYBE the
Winter Olympics, but certainly not the Summer Olympics.

BTW, I don't know if it was ever mentioned in here in some other OT
thread, but speaking of the Olympic Games on ABC, Jim McKay passed away
about, what, a month ago, IIRC. I loved listening to and watching that
man's Olympic coverage. He is truly an icon where the Olympics are
concerned.

--- Cory

--
"Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." --- Kahlil Gibran

Maybe

2008-08-21 12:56:33 UTC

Post by Cory
I'm NOT accusing you of lying, Sharon... just so we're clear on that,
but I have a hard time picturing CBS broadcasting the Olympics. �It just
doesn't seem like something they could pull off successfully
(successfully meaning pulling in lots and lots of viewers)... MAYBE the
Winter Olympics, but certainly not the Summer Olympics.

CBS broadcast the Olympics in:

1960 - Winter Olympics in Squaw Valley AND summer Olympics in Rome
1992 - Albertville, France
1994 - Lillehammer - This is the Olympics where David Letterman's mom
covered it for the Late Show and became famous for her interviews with
Hillary Clinton and the athletes

Post by Cory
The Summer Olympics where the Israeli athletes

were gunned down from the bell tower (at least I *think* it was a
bell
tower) at the LA Coliseum, or the Winter Olympics?

FTR, I say LA Coliseum mostly because I was WAY too young to have
watched the '72 Olympics, but I have watched footage of the shooting
unfold, and ISTR this facade in the background that was part of the
LA
Coliseum. >

That Olympics was in Munich, Germany and covered by ABC.

My source document is an article entitled, "TV Broadcast History:
http://jeff560.tripod.com/tv8.html

Maybe...you probably should read it.

sharon

2008-08-21 14:31:30 UTC

Post by Cory
says...

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least as
far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally found
the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here in the
US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to the
Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

But wasn't there one set of Olympics that was broadcast by neither ABC or
NBC that didn't use that music? When many people expressed their surprise,
it was explained that the music itsef was not associated with the
Olympics, but was a network choice.

Just because you cannot picture it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. CBS
definitely broadcast the Winter Olympics from Lillehammer Norway in 1994. I
know because I attended and recall it vividly. Not sure what other games
they've done, but they definitely did those.

Sharon

DawnK

2008-08-24 15:13:34 UTC

Post by Cory
says...

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least as
far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally found
the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here in the
US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to the
Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

But wasn't there one set of Olympics that was broadcast by neither ABC or
NBC that didn't use that music? When many people expressed their surprise,
it was explained that the music itsef was not associated with the
Olympics, but was a network choice.

Just because you cannot picture it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. CBS
definitely broadcast the Winter Olympics from Lillehammer Norway in 1994.
I know because I attended and recall it vividly. Not sure what other
games they've done, but they definitely did those.
Sharon

You got to go to Norway? Lucky you!

Dawn

sharon

2008-08-24 18:54:25 UTC

snip>>
You got to go to Norway? Lucky you!
Dawn

Sure did, I've been very lucky to be able to travel. Norway was beautiful,
even underneath 3 feet of snow and the people were terrific, very friendly
and rightfully proud of their country. Most of them also speak better
English than we do!

I got to attend all sorts of stuff: some downhill skiing, short track speed
skating, hockey, ski jumping, and the bobsleds, which were really fun. The
highlight for me, as well as for that Olympics, was the women's figure
skating with Nancy Kerrigan vs. Oksana Baiul which I got to see in person,
as well as the figure skating exhibition in which all the medalists perform.

I went to Montreal in '76 when I was still in college, too. That was a low
budget trip; we drove up and stayed in a youth hostel which was the basement
of a church filled with Army cots. The 'shower' was a garden hose snaked
through a window in the garage. It was $3 a night to stay there.

We attended several events, mainly standing room at track and field which
was really confusing as all sorts of things are going on at once. I also
saw the first round of the men's platform diving which was notable as the
Olympic debut of 16 year old Greg Louganis, who won the silver. Didn't see
any medal ceremonies because attending the finals of anything was not in our
budget.

Sharon

DawnK

2008-08-25 00:52:12 UTC

snip>>
You got to go to Norway? Lucky you!
Dawn

Sure did, I've been very lucky to be able to travel. Norway was
beautiful, even underneath 3 feet of snow and the people were terrific,
very friendly and rightfully proud of their country. Most of them also
speak better English than we do!
I got to attend all sorts of stuff: some downhill skiing, short track
speed skating, hockey, ski jumping, and the bobsleds, which were really
fun. The highlight for me, as well as for that Olympics, was the women's
figure skating with Nancy Kerrigan vs. Oksana Baiul which I got to see in
person, as well as the figure skating exhibition in which all the
medalists perform.
I went to Montreal in '76 when I was still in college, too. That was a
low budget trip; we drove up and stayed in a youth hostel which was the
basement of a church filled with Army cots. The 'shower' was a garden
hose snaked through a window in the garage. It was $3 a night to stay
there.
We attended several events, mainly standing room at track and field which
was really confusing as all sorts of things are going on at once. I also
saw the first round of the men's platform diving which was notable as the
Olympic debut of 16 year old Greg Louganis, who won the silver. Didn't
see any medal ceremonies because attending the finals of anything was not
in our budget.
Sharon

Oh, how fun! A garden hose? Brrrr! But it was cheap! Lucky you!

Dawn

DawnK

2008-08-17 04:37:34 UTC

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least as
far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally found
the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here in the US
anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to the
Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the theme, the
other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same music." I said, "Since
I was a kid!"

Dawn

M. Halbrook

2008-08-17 06:26:32 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

sharon

2008-08-17 14:11:30 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is used in
the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the music that the
US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Sharon

M. Halbrook

2008-08-17 19:40:23 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to that,
because the other common piece is by John Williams and was written for the
84 olympics.

KStahl

2008-08-18 00:12:33 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to that,
because the other common piece is by John Williams and was written for the
84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?

The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember
that tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the
60s. But that may be a false memory.

KStahl

2008-08-18 00:46:54 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to
that, because the other common piece is by John Williams and was
written for the 84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?
The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember
that tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the
60s. But that may be a false memory.

I just found some new information. The John William part is, as you have
pointed out, a work that he composed in 1984. However, the way that NBC
uses this is combined with another tune. So it starts off with the
fanfare that is used at the very opening, but after about a minute it
lapses into the John Williams piece.

I still may not have this all right, but based on my searches, the
following link represents the entirety of the John Williams portion:

http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=musiced&cdn=education&tm=57&gps=76_931_1020_575&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//musicby.jw-music.net/download.php%3Furl%3Dmidi/olympic.mid

The music that often precedes it is called "Bugler's Dream" - which is a
one-minute extraction from a longer piece named "The Charge Suite"
written by Leo Arnaud in 1958. It made its debut as part of ABC News
coverage of the Olympics in 1968.

sharon

2008-08-18 01:57:13 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to that,
because the other common piece is by John Williams and was written for
the 84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?
The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember that
tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the 60s.
But that may be a false memory.

I just found some new information. The John William part is, as you have
pointed out, a work that he composed in 1984. However, the way that NBC
uses this is combined with another tune. So it starts off with the fanfare
that is used at the very opening, but after about a minute it lapses into
the John Williams piece.
I still may not have this all right, but based on my searches, the
http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=musiced&cdn=education&tm=57&gps=76_931_1020_575&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//musicby.jw-music.net/download.php%3Furl%3Dmidi/olympic.mid
The music that often precedes it is called "Bugler's Dream" - which is a
one-minute extraction from a longer piece named "The Charge Suite" written
by Leo Arnaud in 1958. It made its debut as part of ABC News coverage of
the Olympics in 1968.

Makes sense to me and makes me feel better that I, too, remember the Olympic
theme music played at the opening of the show from when I was a kid. I know
it was around in '72 because I remember watching a lot of those Olympics
because of Mark Spitz and then the terrorist attack. I was around in '68 but
don't have any specific memories of watching it on TV.

Sharon

DawnK

2008-08-18 15:36:44 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to that,
because the other common piece is by John Williams and was written for
the 84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?
The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember that
tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the 60s.
But that may be a false memory.

I just found some new information. The John William part is, as you have
pointed out, a work that he composed in 1984. However, the way that NBC
uses this is combined with another tune. So it starts off with the fanfare
that is used at the very opening, but after about a minute it lapses into
the John Williams piece.
I still may not have this all right, but based on my searches, the
http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=musiced&cdn=education&tm=57&gps=76_931_1020_575&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//musicby.jw-music.net/download.php%3Furl%3Dmidi/olympic.mid
The music that often precedes it is called "Bugler's Dream" - which is a
one-minute extraction from a longer piece named "The Charge Suite" written
by Leo Arnaud in 1958. It made its debut as part of ABC News coverage of
the Olympics in 1968.

That would make sense to me, too. The Olympics were probably on, in 1968,
and I would have been 8 years old, in March of that year, so it would have
started making its way into my head! LOL! Just looked up the 1968 Olympics
on Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Winter_Olympics I'm pretty sure
I saw Jean Claude-Killy ski and Peggy Fleming ice skating. However, they
said it was the first Olympics to be broadcast in color, but I think my
family still had a black-and-white tv. I think we had color, by the 1972
Olympics, though.

Dawn

Cory

2008-08-21 09:01:50 UTC

In article <vGgqk.19961$***@newsfe06.iad>, ***@lakebreeze.org
says...

Post by DawnK

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to that,
because the other common piece is by John Williams and was written for
the 84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?
The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember that
tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the 60s.
But that may be a false memory.

I just found some new information. The John William part is, as you have
pointed out, a work that he composed in 1984. However, the way that NBC
uses this is combined with another tune. So it starts off with the fanfare
that is used at the very opening, but after about a minute it lapses into
the John Williams piece.
I still may not have this all right, but based on my searches, the
http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=musiced&cdn=education&tm=57&gps=76_931_1020_575&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//musicby.jw-music.net/download.php%3Furl%3Dmidi/olympic.mid
The music that often precedes it is called "Bugler's Dream" - which is a
one-minute extraction from a longer piece named "The Charge Suite" written
by Leo Arnaud in 1958. It made its debut as part of ABC News coverage of
the Olympics in 1968.

Which Olympic Games? The Summer Olympics where the Israeli athletes
were gunned down from the bell tower (at least I *think* it was a bell
tower) at the LA Coliseum, or the Winter Olympics?

FTR, I say LA Coliseum mostly because I was WAY too young to have
watched the '72 Olympics, but I have watched footage of the shooting
unfold, and ISTR this facade in the background that was part of the LA
Coliseum. I hope I'm right, simply for history's sake.

--- Cory

--
"Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." --- Kahlil Gibran

sharon

2008-08-21 14:42:36 UTC

Post by Cory
Which Olympic Games? The Summer Olympics where the Israeli athletes
were gunned down from the bell tower (at least I *think* it was a bell
tower) at the LA Coliseum, or the Winter Olympics?
FTR, I say LA Coliseum mostly because I was WAY too young to have
watched the '72 Olympics, but I have watched footage of the shooting
unfold, and ISTR this facade in the background that was part of the LA
Coliseum. I hope I'm right, simply for history's sake.
--- Cory

A little Googling goes a long way, Cory. First, it was Munich, not LA,
secondly, it was a hostage situation, not a sniper.

A group of Middle Eastern terrorists, called Black September, broke into the
Olympic village, entered the quarters of the Israeli wrestling and
weightlifting team and held them hostage; demanding that Israel release
various terrorists it was holding. The Israelis refused, of course. The
German government supposedly arranged for the terrorists and hostages to be
taken to the Munich Airport to be flown out of the country. They were
loaded into helicopters and taken to the airport where the German military
attempted a rescue. The terrorists detonated grenades in the helicopters,
killing all of the Israelis and some of the terrorists, too.

There's an excellent film that was released a couple of years ago called
'Munich' which detailed the Israeli government's retaliation against those
behind the attack.

Sharon

Dimitrios Paskoudniakis

2008-08-22 19:06:02 UTC

A little Googling goes a long way, Cory. First, it was Munich, not LA,
secondly, it was a hostage situation, not a sniper.
A group of Middle Eastern terrorists, called Black September

Let's be a little more specific than Middle Eastern - Palestinian
terrorists.

DawnK

2008-08-24 15:11:48 UTC

Post by Cory
says...

Post by DawnK

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to that,
because the other common piece is by John Williams and was written for
the 84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?
The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember that
tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the 60s.
But that may be a false memory.

I just found some new information. The John William part is, as you have
pointed out, a work that he composed in 1984. However, the way that NBC
uses this is combined with another tune. So it starts off with the fanfare
that is used at the very opening, but after about a minute it lapses into
the John Williams piece.
I still may not have this all right, but based on my searches, the
http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=musiced&cdn=education&tm=57&gps=76_931_1020_575&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//musicby.jw-music.net/download.php%3Furl%3Dmidi/olympic.mid
The music that often precedes it is called "Bugler's Dream" - which is a
one-minute extraction from a longer piece named "The Charge Suite" written
by Leo Arnaud in 1958. It made its debut as part of ABC News coverage of
the Olympics in 1968.

Which Olympic Games? The Summer Olympics where the Israeli athletes
were gunned down from the bell tower (at least I *think* it was a bell
tower) at the LA Coliseum, or the Winter Olympics?
FTR, I say LA Coliseum mostly because I was WAY too young to have
watched the '72 Olympics, but I have watched footage of the shooting
unfold, and ISTR this facade in the background that was part of the LA
Coliseum. I hope I'm right, simply for history's sake.
--- Cory
--
"Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." --- Kahlil Gibran

1972 Olympics refers to both:

a.. The 1972 Winter Olympics, which were held in Sapporo, Japan
b.. The 1972 Summer Olympics, which were held in Munich, West Germany
It was the summer Olympics. I don't really remember much about the
massacre, though. I do know I watched Mark Spitz get the 7 medals, though!
I thought Mark Spitz was hot, when I was 12! Then I saw him on TV, talking
about Michael Phelps and he looked so old, in comparison to the 22yo he was
in 1976. He is 10 years old than me.

Dawn

Dimitrios Paskoudniakis

2008-08-22 19:09:46 UTC

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to that,
because the other common piece is by John Williams and was written for
the 84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?
The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember that
tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the 60s.
But that may be a false memory.

I just found some new information. The John William part is, as you have
pointed out, a work that he composed in 1984. However, the way that NBC
uses this is combined with another tune. So it starts off with the fanfare
that is used at the very opening, but after about a minute it lapses into
the John Williams piece.
I still may not have this all right, but based on my searches, the
http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=musiced&cdn=education&tm=57&gps=76_931_1020_575&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//musicby.jw-music.net/download.php%3Furl%3Dmidi/olympic.mid
The music that often precedes it is called "Bugler's Dream" - which is a
one-minute extraction from a longer piece named "The Charge Suite" written
by Leo Arnaud in 1958. It made its debut as part of ABC News coverage of
the Olympics in 1968.

I'll repeat here what I put in another branch of the thread, some similar to
the above.

The classical Olympic theme is unchanged, and John Williams had no part in
it. The original is "Bugler's Dream", was written in 1958 by French
composer Leo Arnaud, and is part of a longer piece called "The Charge
Suite". It was first used in the Olympics for the 1968 Winter Games in
Grenoble, France.

Here is the original Olympics Theme, "Bugler's Dream":
http://youtu.be/lwqE1QeyxM8

For the 1984 Los Angeles Games, the Olympic Organizing Committee
commissioned John Williams to write an entirely new composition, "Olympic
Fanfare and Theme", which has none of the original theme in it.

Hear John Williams' theme in its entirety:
http://youtu.be/K90GoFrLvVI

Some arrangements combine portions of the two compositions, but the original
compositions are separate and distinct.

I will add that NBC combines the two pieces. Also, John Williams wrote other
Olympic themes, including for the Atlanta Games, but NBC is not using these.

DawnK

2008-08-24 15:15:32 UTC

Post by Dimitrios Paskoudniakis

Post by DawnK
Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the
theme, the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same
music." I said, "Since I was a kid!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Anthem

The Olympic Anthem is an entirely different piece of music that is
used in the opening ceremonies for the games. We're discussing the
music that the US networks use in their coverage of the Olympics.

Based on how old y'all were saying, I thought you were refering to
that, because the other common piece is by John Williams and was
written for the 84 olympics.

Did he write the tune or did he do an arrangement of a tune that already
existed?
The only reason I ask is because I'm almost positive that I remember
that tune from Olympics I saw as a teen - so that would place it in the
60s. But that may be a false memory.

I just found some new information. The John William part is, as you have
pointed out, a work that he composed in 1984. However, the way that NBC
uses this is combined with another tune. So it starts off with the
fanfare that is used at the very opening, but after about a minute it
lapses into the John Williams piece.
I still may not have this all right, but based on my searches, the
http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ&sdn=musiced&cdn=education&tm=57&gps=76_931_1020_575&f=00&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//musicby.jw-music.net/download.php%3Furl%3Dmidi/olympic.mid
The music that often precedes it is called "Bugler's Dream" - which is a
one-minute extraction from a longer piece named "The Charge Suite"
written by Leo Arnaud in 1958. It made its debut as part of ABC News
coverage of the Olympics in 1968.

I'll repeat here what I put in another branch of the thread, some similar
to the above.
The classical Olympic theme is unchanged, and John Williams had no part in
it. The original is "Bugler's Dream", was written in 1958 by French
composer Leo Arnaud, and is part of a longer piece called "The Charge
Suite". It was first used in the Olympics for the 1968 Winter Games in
Grenoble, France.
http://youtu.be/lwqE1QeyxM8
For the 1984 Los Angeles Games, the Olympic Organizing Committee
commissioned John Williams to write an entirely new composition, "Olympic
Fanfare and Theme", which has none of the original theme in it.
http://youtu.be/K90GoFrLvVI
Some arrangements combine portions of the two compositions, but the original
compositions are separate and distinct.
other Olympic themes, including for the Atlanta Games, but NBC is not
using these.

I believe I understood, that they were two different pieces and were put
together. I can identify where one ends and the other begins.

Dawn

sharon

2008-08-17 14:23:21 UTC

Post by DawnK

Post by KStahl
But is the selection process even-handed. NBC is the network that has
carried the Olympics far more then any of the others. In fact, unless I
have bad information on this, the Olympic theme music that NBC plays is
something that they own and is not the official theme music of the
Olympics itself. Yet almost everyone recognizes that tune because they
hear it more often then the music used by other networks in the few
instances that they have covered the Olympics instead of NBC.
I could be wrong though - I couldn't find a definitive web site that
shows which network has provided coverage over the years.

Actually, if you're talking about the 'theme' with the booming drums and
trumpets that NBC uses during the Olympics coverage, that music was also
used by ABC when it was the network that carried the Olympics at least as
far back as the 70's. I believe it was ABC Sports which originally found
the piece of classical music containing this passage which, here in the
US anyway, has become known so well. When NBC got the rights to the
Olympics, they used the same theme because during ABC's reign as the
Olympic network, it had become instantly recognizable by the general
public.
Sharon

Do you know what piece of music it comes from? I was humming the theme,
the other day, and Sarah said, "They always use the same music." I said,
"Since I was a kid!"
Dawn

I found this which says it is from the 1984 Olympics and was written by John
Williams, but I really thought it was older than that:

http://www.televisiontunes.com/Olympics_-_1984_-_John_Williams.html

This contains the entire piece, both the opening theme as well as the rest
which is often heard over the credits.

Sharon
Sharon

Paige Matthews

2008-08-09 18:11:39 UTC

Post by TBerk
Set yer TiVO, er VHS tape'n machines!

How do you do that? My TIVO only goes up as
far August 24, 2008.

(Comcast)

Cory

2008-08-10 19:10:36 UTC