OT Five second rule

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"

What is this five second rule they referred to?

[Cory]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"

What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.

The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.

--- Cory

[Maybe]

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What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. �Thus, the organ was �
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. �If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.

There is a show on Food Network that debunks food myths and they
determined the five second rule is crap. The food that you grab off
the floor before five seconds are up has the same amount of germs
after five seconds.

Maybe...so don't eat anything off the floor at all!

[Hunter]

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Post by Cory
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. ï¿?Thus, the organ was ï¿?
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. ï¿?If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.

There is a show on Food Network that debunks food myths and they
determined the five second rule is crap. The food that you grab off
the floor before five seconds are up has the same amount of germs
after five seconds.
Maybe...so don't eat anything off the floor at all!

---
It is an old children's joke and Grey's used it as comic relief to
reflect Miranda Bailey's panic and desperation. In her shock she
briefly reverted to childhood to salvage the situation. I am sure off
screen they tested the viability of the organ. It was funny!!

[Cory]

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What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. ï¿?Thus, the organ was ï¿?
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. ï¿?If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.

There is a show on Food Network that debunks food myths and they
determined the five second rule is crap. The food that you grab off
the floor before five seconds are up has the same amount of germs
after five seconds.
Maybe...so don't eat anything off the floor at all!

---
It is an old children's joke and Grey's used it as comic relief to
reflect Miranda Bailey's panic and desperation. In her shock she
briefly reverted to childhood to salvage the situation. I am sure off
screen they tested the viability of the organ. It was funny!!

I also found it hilarious, myself.

--- Cory

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

[M. Halbrook]

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How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

No one said it had scientific foundation, in fact, Mythbusters & that Ted
Allan show on Food Network both proved it was not true.

[Cory]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

People have been known to hypothesize, I guess would be the right word,
that since an OR is supposed to be sterile, so too, would be its floor.

Of course, yeah, people are wrong when they argue that hypothesis, but
they still like to fool themselves into believing it's true.

--- Cory

[Lily Moore Tyler]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

People have been known to hypothesize, I guess would be the right word,
that since an OR is supposed to be sterile, so too, would be its floor.
Of course, yeah, people are wrong when they argue that hypothesis, but
they still like to fool themselves into believing it's true.
--- Cory

Wouldn't a floor in the OR be sterile? The last time I was in
a hospital for an operation the doctors not only washed their
hands, they had scrubs on and even had booties on their feet to
match the scrubs. I'd have to assume that germs on the floor or
anywhere else in the room (or on the people in the room could
potentially adversely impact the patient.

[Sharon Too]

Post by Lily Moore Tyler
Wouldn't a floor in the OR be sterile? The last time I was in
a hospital for an operation the doctors not only washed their
hands, they had scrubs on and even had booties on their feet to
match the scrubs. I'd have to assume that germs on the floor or
anywhere else in the room (or on the people in the room could
potentially adversely impact the patient.

This is where gravity comes into play. In theory the floor would be
sanitized. But once a wound (incision) is made in the body, anything
including bacteria can be aerosolized and fall to the floor. So, no, I
wouldn't want anything dropped on the floor to be used on me.

-Sharon

[Hunter]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

People have been known to hypothesize, I guess would be the right word,
that since an OR is supposed to be sterile, so too, would be its floor.
Of course, yeah, people are wrong when they argue that hypothesis, but
they still like to fool themselves into believing it's true.
--- Cory

Wouldn't a floor in the OR be sterile? The last time I was in
a hospital for an operation the doctors not only washed their
hands, they had scrubs on and even had booties on their feet to
match the scrubs. I'd have to assume that germs on the floor or
anywhere else in the room (or on the people in the room could
potentially adversely impact the patient.

---
No, it is not as sterile as say the operating instruments or the
hands. People walk in from the outside all the time.

[Cory]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

People have been known to hypothesize, I guess would be the right word,
that since an OR is supposed to be sterile, so too, would be its floor.
Of course, yeah, people are wrong when they argue that hypothesis, but
they still like to fool themselves into believing it's true.
--- Cory

Wouldn't a floor in the OR be sterile? The last time I was in
a hospital for an operation the doctors not only washed their
hands, they had scrubs on and even had booties on their feet to
match the scrubs. I'd have to assume that germs on the floor or
anywhere else in the room (or on the people in the room could
potentially adversely impact the patient.

---
No, it is not as sterile as say the operating instruments or the
hands. People walk in from the outside all the time.

There was an episode back in season one or two when Yang was in an OR,
looking at and memorizing surgical instruments. She was wearing scrubs,
but she was NOT gowned up, she was NOT masked, and AFAIK, she hadn't
scrubbed before she entered the OR. Dr. Burke, IIRC, walked by and saw
her in the OR, walked in and asked her what she was doing. At one point
during their conversation, Yang said that she would re-sterilize the
instruments and leave everything the way it was before she came into the
OR. Dr. Burke was neither, gowned, gloved, masked, or scrubbed, either.

--- Cory

[Hunter]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

People have been known to hypothesize, I guess would be the right word,
that since an OR is supposed to be sterile, so too, would be its floor.
Of course, yeah, people are wrong when they argue that hypothesis, but
they still like to fool themselves into believing it's true.
--- Cory

Wouldn't a floor in the OR be sterile? The last time I was in
a hospital for an operation the doctors not only washed their
hands, they had scrubs on and even had booties on their feet to
match the scrubs. I'd have to assume that germs on the floor or
anywhere else in the room (or on the people in the room could
potentially adversely impact the patient.

---
No, it is not as sterile as say the operating instruments or the
hands. People walk in from the outside all the time.

There was an episode back in season one or two when Yang was in an OR,
looking at and memorizing surgical instruments. She was wearing scrubs,
but she was NOT gowned up, she was NOT masked, and AFAIK, she hadn't
scrubbed before she entered the OR. Dr. Burke, IIRC, walked by and saw
her in the OR, walked in and asked her what she was doing. At one point
during their conversation, Yang said that she would re-sterilize the
instruments and leave everything the way it was before she came into the
OR. Dr. Burke was neither, gowned, gloved, masked, or scrubbed, either.
--- Cory

---
Sure, IIRC there wasn't a patient being operated on anyway so it was
okay, and the place cannot be totally sterile anyway it is not
possible you would have to put the OR in an air lock.

[sharon]

Post by Lily Moore Tyler
Wouldn't a floor in the OR be sterile? The last time I was in
a hospital for an operation the doctors not only washed their
hands, they had scrubs on and even had booties on their feet to
match the scrubs. I'd have to assume that germs on the floor or
anywhere else in the room (or on the people in the room could
potentially adversely impact the patient.

Nope, the only sterile things in an OR are the stuff that might actually be
placed into the incision like instruments and hands. The floors are clean,
probably cleaner than your floors at home, but they are not sterile.

OR's require people to change out of their street clothes and wear paper
booties over their shoes as well as to cover their hair and nose and mouth
in order to keep things as clean as possible, but it's not possible to
sterilize every surface.

As for the organ hitting the ground, it can probably be rinsed repeatedly
with sterile saline to get rid of most of the bugs and the patient will be
getting prophylactic antibiotics anyway for the transplant. It's not ideal,
but it's not a deal breaker as far as a transplant goes.

Sharon

[Hunter]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

People have been known to hypothesize, I guess would be the right word,
that since an OR is supposed to be sterile, so too, would be its floor.
Of course, yeah, people are wrong when they argue that hypothesis, but
they still like to fool themselves into believing it's true.
--- Cory

---
Don't sweat it. It was meant to be a joke from people's childhood.
Dr. Bailey panicked and briefly reverted to childhood to salvage the
situation. Remember, "Grey's Anatomy" is a dramedy. Much more serious
than "Boston Legal" but less so than "ER" so you get these wacky
things.

[Hunter]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

---
It was meant to be funny to those who were familiar with the
childhood tale. I am sure the staff did all neccessary test to see if
it was still viable.

[Dropping The Helicopter]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

The one about the organ? IIRC, somebody dropped an organ for transplant
on the OR floor. There was a debate about whether it could still be
used for transplant, at which point, someone (I don't remember who it
was) piped up and said something to the effect of, "Five second rule!
Five second rule!!"
What they meant was that if someone picked up the organ off of the OR
floor within five seconds, it was still good. Thus, the organ was
deemed useable for transplant.
The reference goes to food on the floor. If someone picks up food that
fell on the floor within five seconds, it is deemed still to be edible.
--- Cory

How bizarre, considering how many billions of germs are on the floor.

---
It was meant to be funny to those who were familiar with the
childhood tale. I am sure the staff did all neccessary test to see if
it was still viable.

..."childhood tale"?

Uh-oh.

[Clifford T. Newsome]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

Well, to reference a non-medical show, namely Curb Your Enthusiasm, the
5-second rule is how long Larry can go after being hugged by a woman before
getting aroused and offending her greatly. In his mind, it's her fault if
she holds the hug that long!

[Hunter]

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I'm watching Greys anatomy...."There's no I in Team"
What is this five second rule they referred to?

---
It is a childhood "rule" that things like candy cakes, cookies etc.
Are still safe to eat despite what your parents tell you about eating
off the floor. It was something a desperate child came up with so
that candy wouldn't go to waste.

In the show it was to show Dr. Bailey's desperation to salvage the
situation so she briefly reverted to childhood in her shock of Grey
the younger dropping it.