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Thursday's Episode
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m***@verizon.net
2008-01-06 20:38:03 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!

As for why Doug and Carol have no more kids? Sometimes t hat happens.
My mom was telling me about someone in her church who's dauguhter has
a little girl. They wanted to have more. But she has had 7
miscarriages! Nobody knows why. So they had to adopt. It seems I hear
alot of people who have one child but then can not have any more. So
maybe they have tried but couldn't

So did Luka take the baby back to Croatia? And what happens when Abby
comes home? Does she get him back?
M. Halbrook
2008-01-07 08:56:03 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
I thought it was her work with her CLinics that caused the problems, not
her HIV.
dlcandc
2008-01-07 17:43:18 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
I thought it was her work with her CLinics that caused the problems, not
her HIV.
Yep, that was it.
----
Lori
sharon
2008-01-10 17:55:11 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
I thought it was her work with her CLinics that caused the problems, not
her HIV.
Yes, but it doesn't seem logical that Reggie, who was fine with Jeannie
working fulltime in the ER, who knew she was HIV positive and open about it,
would somehow have a problem with her channelling her experience as a PA
into working with HIV positive patients.

Sharon
Dropping The Helicopter
2008-01-11 01:20:33 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
I thought it was her work with her CLinics that caused the problems, not
her HIV.
Yes, but it doesn't seem logical that Reggie, who was fine with Jeannie
working fulltime in the ER, who knew she was HIV positive and open about
it, would somehow have a problem with her channelling her experience as
a PA into working with HIV positive patients.
Wow, once bitten, twice wrong. Sharon(s): Reggie had no problem with
her having HIV (your first mistake), nor did he have any problem with
her working with HIV patients (your second mistake). As was clearly
stated in the episode, he was unable to handle the fact that she was a
stubborn workaholic and was never around for him.

Now, I know you have precious little experience with interpersonal
relationships, so allow me to clarify: when two people are married, and
one is never around but is instead working all the time, that puts what
is called a "strain" on the relationship. Sometimes this "strain" is so
great that the marriage simply cannot continue, and one or both people
decide that the best thing to do is to get a "divorce", i.e. to end the
marriage.

You now should have enough background to carefully watch the episode
again, appreciate the crystal-clear exposition in the episode's dialog
of the cause of Reggie and Jeannie marriage to break up, and finally
come back here and take your lumps like a man. You're welcome.
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Sharon
sharon
2008-01-11 03:49:53 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
I thought it was her work with her CLinics that caused the problems, not
her HIV.
Yes, but it doesn't seem logical that Reggie, who was fine with Jeannie
working fulltime in the ER, who knew she was HIV positive and open about
it, would somehow have a problem with her channelling her experience as a
PA into working with HIV positive patients.
Wow, once bitten, twice wrong. Sharon(s): Reggie had no problem with her
having HIV (your first mistake), nor did he have any problem with her
working with HIV patients (your second mistake). As was clearly stated in
the episode, he was unable to handle the fact that she was a stubborn
workaholic and was never around for him.
Which, of course, makes no sense since Jeannie adopted an infant at the time
she married Reggie. So, we're now supposed to believe that Jeannie, who
quit working in the ER to be with her family, suddenly became a workaholic
after achieving that goal and virtually abandoned them? I would presume
that if Jeannie really did become obsessed with her clinic and was working
'24/7' she also doesn't have much time for Carlos, the little boy she jumped
through hoops to adopt. Anyway you slice it, this storyline is baloney and
anyone who actually watched the show the first time around and saw Jeannie,
Reggie and Carlos together would agree with me that it does not jibe with
the characters we saw on our screens back in the day.

Sharon
Dropping The Helicopter
2008-01-11 04:26:45 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
I thought it was her work with her CLinics that caused the problems, not
her HIV.
Yes, but it doesn't seem logical that Reggie, who was fine with
Jeannie working fulltime in the ER, who knew she was HIV positive and
open about it, would somehow have a problem with her channelling her
experience as a PA into working with HIV positive patients.
Wow, once bitten, twice wrong. Sharon(s): Reggie had no problem with
her having HIV (your first mistake), nor did he have any problem with
her working with HIV patients (your second mistake). As was clearly
stated in the episode, he was unable to handle the fact that she was a
stubborn workaholic and was never around for him.
Which, of course, makes no sense
And third time's not the charm apparently. How much sense it makes is
not the point. The point is that the reason for the split-up was
clearly and unambiguously *stated* in the dialog of the episode, and you
got it wrong twice, and now are trying to change the subject. Do the
honorable thing and admit that you were wrong. Twice.
Post by sharon
since Jeannie adopted an infant at the
time she married Reggie. So, we're now supposed to believe that
Jeannie, who quit working in the ER to be with her family, suddenly
became a workaholic after achieving that goal and virtually abandoned
them?
From the dialog presented in the episode, I guess we are. Frankly, I
don't know how you could have missed it.

(OH SNAP! ;-))))))))

Well, except, from what I dimly recall, Jeannie did not quit "to be with
her family", but rather she left in a bit of a huff for getting grief
from hospital mucky-mucks for having HIV. But I may be wrong about
that, and welcome a correction from anybody with a better memory than
myself (which of course excludes you sharon(s)).
Post by sharon
I would presume
Like the old saw says: "Don't 'presume', because when you 'presume', you
make a 'pres' out of 'u' and 'me'."
Post by sharon
that if Jeannie really did become obsessed with
her clinic
Clinics. Plural. Two clinics. Another detail that could not have been
made more clearly by the dialog presented in the episode if Jeannie had
been wearing a hat with a huge neon sign on it with the words "I RUN TWO
CLINICS" and an arrow pointing at her face.
Post by sharon
and was working '24/7' she also doesn't have much time for
Carlos, the little boy she jumped through hoops to adopt.
Yep, well, presume what you want. I presume the dad gets plenty of time
with him.
Post by sharon
Anyway you
slice it, this storyline is baloney and anyone who actually watched the
show the first time around and saw Jeannie, Reggie and Carlos together
would agree with me that it does not jibe with the characters we saw on
our screens back in the day.
HEY! I *KNEW* YOU AND I COULD EVENTUALLY FIND AGREEMENT ON SOMETHING!!!
Yes sharon(s), I also believe it is a safe bet that there is nobody on
the entire planet that thinks ER Sxx+ are worthy of polishing ER
S01-Sxx's boots, for some value of "xx" between "06" and "10". Yes,
being *extremely* generous on that high end there.

Now, if you'll simply admit you were wrong, twice, we can put this
unpleasantness behind us and get back to talking about how Abby hates
puppies. Thanks in advance!
Post by sharon
Sharon
Ellen K Hursh
2008-01-11 21:18:51 UTC
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On Jan 10, 10:26 pm, Dropping The Helicopter
since Jeannie adopted an infant at the time she married Reggie.  So, we're now
supposed to believe that Jeannie, who quit working in the ER to be with her family,
suddenly became a workaholic after achieving that goal and virtually abandoned them?
 From the dialog presented in the episode, I guess we are.  Frankly, I
don't know how you could have missed it.
(OH SNAP! ;-))))))))
Well, except, from what I dimly recall, Jeannie did not quit "to be with
her family", but rather she left in a bit of a huff for getting grief
from hospital mucky-mucks for having HIV.  But I may be wrong about
that, and welcome a correction from anybody with a better memory than
myself (which of course excludes you sharon(s)).
The kerfuffle over her HIV status was a couple of seasons before that,
and had basically been resolved. Her departure did, in fact, involve
her family - her last episode (Peace of Wild Things), Kerry exposited
that she hadn't been to work all week, and told Malik to have her come
in... if not to work, then to explain why she shouldn't be fired.
Later, it turned out that Jeanie'd worked all of two days in the past
three weeks. She said, flat out, "I've never been happier. I have
Reggie and the baby and every time I'm at work I want to be home with
them." Which pretty much sounds to me like she quit to be with her
family.
Sharon Too
2008-01-11 04:37:50 UTC
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Although I often agree with Sharon M, we're not the same person. So to the
a.t.e. posters, lets not assume that the two of us are one in the same.

Sharon M- did you go to N.O. yet? We'll be there this summer with the staff
for the AVMA conference (remember Nashville? Jake wears his shirt a lot).

-sharontoo
sharon
2008-01-11 14:11:51 UTC
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Although I often agree with Sharon M, we're not the same person. So to the
a.t.e. posters, lets not assume that the two of us are one in the same.
Nope, the only thing that is the same is DTH's need to behave like an a**.
Because, in his little world, the fact that Jeannie runs TWO clinics and not
one is incredibly important. While I might've been wrong on the exact
details (paying close attention to the show these days is not my forte), I
was correct, IMO, in my opinion that Jeannie and Reggie as presented on the
show 8 years ago, would not have separated over such issues because they
would not have acted the way the PFM's who currently run the show have
written them. And, since opinions are just that, they really cannot be
categorized as right or wrong in this context. I might've missed some of
the details, doesn't change my point.

Vetgirl, the ignore button is a wonderful thing, I highly recommend it if
you don't want to waste your time on the flaming.
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Sharon M- did you go to N.O. yet? We'll be there this summer with the
staff for the AVMA conference (remember Nashville? Jake wears his shirt a
lot).
-sharontoo
You know I did, Vetgirl! Let's not dwell on the reason, of course. Other
than that football game, we had a wonderful time! The French Quarter and
other touristy places are intact, were never under water. They're still
frying up the beignets at Cafe du Monde and you can still get drunk as a
skunk on the Hurricanes at Pat O'Brien's.

I do highly recommend taking a tour of the Lower 9th Ward and the levees, a
sobering experience. Even now, two and a half years later, the
neighborhoods with the worst damage are almost empty and, although the major
debris is gone, the houses still stand uninhabitable. This isn't just in
the poorest areas, either, even the middle class neighborhoods are ghost
towns. My cousin, an attorney who teaches at Tulane, is still living in a
trailer and he had flood insurance. As we rode through on the tour bus, we
all were surprised to see many people who were back in the neighborhoods
stop what they were doing to wave and smile as we passed through. I guess
they are happy that people want to see what happened to them.

We also found it very enlightening to talk to the locals about their
experiences during the aftermath. Everyone has a story and they are more
than willing to tell it. We talked to our tour guide, bartenders, cops,
storekeepers, you name it. On our tour, we even got to see Brad Pitt's
little pink houses and Musician's Village which Harry Connick and Wynton
Marsalis helped build with Habitat. Very cool.

The people we met, every single one over 4 days, were as gracious and kind
and friendly as any I've ever encountered. I don't think I've ever been
anywhere with nicer people. And, remember, we were wearing enemy colors.
Even the LSU fans (everyone in New Orleans from what I saw) behaved like
champions. Also, listen to the natives and take notes when they tell you
where to eat, the food is unbelievable and we were not steered wrong once.
And I don't even eat seafood! The New Orleans accent is also the coolest
ever, I could listen to them talk for hours.


N.O. is a terrific location for a bowl game, much better than Phoenix or
Pasadena, my other points of reference.

Sharon
Hunter
2008-01-11 21:05:20 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
I thought it was her work with her CLinics that caused the problems, not
her HIV.
Yes, but it doesn't seem logical that Reggie, who was fine with Jeannie
working fulltime in the ER, who knew she was HIV positive and open about it,
would somehow have a problem with her channelling her experience as a PA
into working with HIV positive patients.
Sharon
---
It is like that a lot with spouses who marry people who dodn't keep
normal 9 to 5 hours. They don't quite know what they are getting into. On
"Grey's Anatomy" recently Dr. Bailey's marriage to Tucker Jones (played
by Cress Williams, the same actor who played Jeanie's ex-husband on "ER")
was in grave danger of breaking up because she as a doctor, a surgeon to
be percise, can never seem to have enough time for her family. Missing
birthdays, lunch dates, coming home after everyone is asleep, leaving for
work before they wake up. The spouse gets tired of it. Even to the point
ignoring the life and death aspects of the job of his/her partner. For
instance accusing the spouse of being selfish even if she was saving the
life of a person, which is her job description. That is what happened to
Dr. Bailey.

The same with Jeanie. She got dedicated to her mission, perhaps overly so
to the point that she doesn't know how to deligate (or couldn't because
of budgetary reasons). Jeanie is now running two HIV clinics and because
of that she had no time for her family, Reggie knew it would be a tough
marriage with both a wife and child HIV positive but I guess he didn't
expect how single minded she would be with her clinics which, ironically
took her away from her own son's care. Of course there is one major
difference between Dr. Bailey's situation and Boulet's: Dr. Bailey has
hard obligations. I don't know what Boulet's obligations are but she is
her own boss, so she has some control over her schedule. Jeanie may have
been too unbending in her occupation, and it killed her marriage. At
least the divorce was amicable and they are friends, which leaves open
the door of them getting back together.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Nancy2
2008-01-07 21:13:36 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that
I thought it was really a last-ditch attempt on the writers' parts to
bring up old cast members. It all sounded way to forced and
formulaic. I couldn't care less where the former cast members are,
supposedly.

N.
Hunter
2008-01-08 04:02:11 UTC
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Post by Nancy2
Post by m***@verizon.net
I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that
I thought it was really a last-ditch attempt on the writers' parts to
bring up old cast members. It all sounded way to forced and
formulaic. I couldn't care less where the former cast members are,
supposedly.
N.
---
Well, I do and I willing to bet that most people do. I can't imagine
people not caring what Doug and Carol are doing. I wonder how Dr.
Corday is doing back in England. How is Dr. Greene's daughter is doing?
How about Dr. Chen? Dr. Peter Benton? Dr. Finch? How about Dr. Malucci,
where did he end up? I hope they revisit those chracters and others one
last time before the show wraps up for good.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Nancy2
2008-01-08 16:14:03 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that
I thought it was really a last-ditch attempt on the writers' parts to
bring up old cast members.  It all sounded way to forced and
formulaic.  I couldn't care less where the former cast members are,
supposedly.
N.
---
Well, I do and I willing to bet that most people do. I can't imagine
people not caring what Doug and Carol are doing. I wonder how Dr.
Corday is doing back in England. How is Dr. Greene's daughter is doing?
How about Dr. Chen? Dr. Peter Benton? Dr. Finch? How about Dr. Malucci,  
where did he end up? I hope they revisit those chracters and others one
last time before the show wraps up for good.
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
 a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
               -----William J. McDonald
           Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Hint: IT'S FICTION, FOLKS. There is no after-life for characters who
have left the show.

N.
Hunter
2008-01-11 15:13:58 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that
I thought it was really a last-ditch attempt on the writers' parts to
bring up old cast members.  It all sounded way to forced and
formulaic.  I couldn't care less where the former cast members are,
supposedly.
N.
---
Well, I do and I willing to bet that most people do. I can't imagine
people not caring what Doug and Carol are doing. I wonder how Dr.
Corday is doing back in England. How is Dr. Greene's daughter is doing?
How about Dr. Chen? Dr. Peter Benton? Dr. Finch? How about Dr. Malucci,  
where did he end up? I hope they revisit those chracters and others one
last time before the show wraps up for good.
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
 a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
               -----William J. McDonald
           Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Hint: IT'S FICTION, FOLKS. There is no after-life for characters who
have left the show.
N.
----
It is part of the fantasy Nancy. You are supposed to care about the
characters, to invest some emotional feeling into them. That is what
makes a successful movie or TV show or book. It is the same thing as to
when people want to know about what happens to their favorite characters
in a book series. Wanting to see certain characters that again you care
about reflects that investment. It is only natural and it is a reflection
of a good TV show. We just saw that a few months ago with the ending of
"The Sopranos" We saw that in the past with "Dallas" and "Cheers".
Popular characters-and that includes those you hate as well as you love-
are often brought back by writers and producers because the audience care
about them even if they have left the show for a number of years.

Don't be such a wet blanket! Relax! As long as it doesn't become
obssessive and it interferes with one's real life it is all good.
And if it doesn't matter to you you shouldn't be so upset about it
anyway. If it is just fiction to you you should be so upset if they come
back or not. Just take it instride.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
sharon
2008-01-10 17:53:10 UTC
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I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
As for why Doug and Carol have no more kids? Sometimes t hat happens.
My mom was telling me about someone in her church who's dauguhter has
a little girl. They wanted to have more. But she has had 7
miscarriages! Nobody knows why. So they had to adopt. It seems I hear
alot of people who have one child but then can not have any more. So
maybe they have tried but couldn't
So did Luka take the baby back to Croatia? And what happens when Abby
comes home? Does she get him back?
S
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Abby returns tonight. She tells Pratt that Luka is still in Croatia and has
Joe with him because that is what she told him to do, that she doesn't want
either of them around right now. It doesn't ring true and she is very
evasive with the rest of the staff when they ask about Croatia and Luka.

Luka is still in Croatia for the next couple eppies, because of the strike,
there are only a couple more episodes to go.

Sharon
Gary R. Van Sickle
2008-01-11 00:41:13 UTC
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Post by m***@verizon.net
I was happy to hear mention of some of the old cast! I too was
wondering why Reggie suddenly could not handle the fact that Jeannie
and Carlos have Aids. He knew when they got married. And Jeannie looks
reasonably healthy!
As for why Doug and Carol have no more kids? Sometimes t hat happens.
My mom was telling me about someone in her church who's dauguhter has
a little girl. They wanted to have more. But she has had 7
miscarriages! Nobody knows why. So they had to adopt. It seems I hear
alot of people who have one child but then can not have any more. So
maybe they have tried but couldn't
So did Luka take the baby back to Croatia? And what happens when Abby
comes home? Does she get him back?
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S
P
A
C
E
Abby returns tonight. She tells Pratt that Luka is still in Croatia and
has Joe with him because that is what she told him to do, that she
doesn't want either of them around right now. It doesn't ring true and
she is very evasive with the rest of the staff when they ask about
Croatia and Luka.
Luka is still in Croatia for the next couple eppies, because of the
strike, there are only a couple more episodes to go.
Sharon
Hehehehe, let's see how much of even this little bit of "spoiler" ends
up being completely confabulated! You know how they like to "change
those scripts at the last minute" on you sharon(s)!!!!
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