The end of something

[Clifford T. Newsome]

With ER's final episode this week, NBC as we have known it is really going
to change. The ludicrous decision to put the hack Leno on every night at 10
pm signifies considerable desperation, and indicates that someone there felt
they can no longer compete with CBS and ABC (I don't include Fox because
they don't have 10 pm programming either).

The strange thing is I've enjoyed the last several episodes of ER more than
I have for quite some time. I'm sure it has to do with the return of the
familiar faces. To take just one example, Noah Wyle is acting rings around
many of the regulars.

So what is NBC going to do in September? Are they going to show L&O SVU, a
truly creepy series of late that sometimes seems too adult for even 10 pm,
at 9 pm? Will those who like Leno (I'm obviously not one of them, a Dave guy
all the way) stick around for Conan (let alone Fallon and the even later
dude)? Will the really sickening reality junk (the obese reality players and
Trump, can't decide who's more repulsive) finally leave the airwaves?

Aside from the fact that most stocks suck these days, I'm sure glad I never
owned GE. Especially if Donaghy ends up running things!

[Natalie Teeger]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:02:11 -0700, "Clifford T. Newsome"

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
With ER's final episode this week, NBC as we have known it is really going
to change. The ludicrous decision to put the hack Leno on every night at 10
pm signifies considerable desperation, and indicates that someone there felt
they can no longer compete with CBS and ABC (I don't include Fox because
they don't have 10 pm programming either).

They do have programming at 10pm, local news.

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
So what is NBC going to do in September? Are they going to show L&O SVU, a
truly creepy series of late that sometimes seems too adult for even 10 pm,
at 9 pm? Will those who like Leno (I'm obviously not one of them, a Dave guy
all the way) stick around for Conan (let alone Fallon and the even later
dude)? Will the really sickening reality junk (the obese reality players and
Trump, can't decide who's more repulsive) finally leave the airwaves?
Aside from the fact that most stocks suck these days, I'm sure glad I never
owned GE. Especially if Donaghy ends up running things!

Look for reality to stick around for many years.....it's cheap to make
and gets good ratings (think American Idol)

Look for Leno to be cancelled early on.

I love SVU and all the Law and Orders.

[Sharon Too]

Post by Natalie Teeger
They do have programming at 10pm, local news.

Maybe on the west coast, but for the majority of the country, local news
comes on at 11pm.

[MDH]

Post by Sharon Too

Post by Natalie Teeger
They do have programming at 10pm, local news.

Maybe on the west coast, but for the majority of the country, local news
comes on at 11pm.

I'd venture a guess that most Fox affiliates do their local news at 10 not
11. Out here NBC, CBS & ABC do their local at 11, Fox does 10 & 11. CW(?)
Does 10, but it's the NBC affiliate crew.

[Sharon Too]

Post by MDH
I'd venture a guess that most Fox affiliates do their local news at 10 not
11. Out here NBC, CBS & ABC do their local at 11, Fox does 10 & 11.
CW(?)
Does 10, but it's the NBC affiliate crew.

Not all Fox affiliates have local news programming. That seems to only exist
in the largest markets.

[DLCandC]

Post by Sharon Too

Post by MDH
I'd venture a guess that most Fox affiliates do their local news at 10 not
11.  Out here NBC, CBS & ABC do their local at 11, Fox does 10 & 11.
CW(?)
Does 10, but it's the NBC affiliate crew.

Not all Fox affiliates have local news programming. That seems to only exist
in the largest markets.

Our Fox station does it's news 9:00pm central......we're in
AR......didn't think we were that big. :-O
----
Lori

[Natalie Teeger]

Post by MDH

Post by Sharon Too

Post by Natalie Teeger
They do have programming at 10pm, local news.

Maybe on the west coast, but for the majority of the country, local news
comes on at 11pm.

I'd venture a guess that most Fox affiliates do their local news at 10 not
11. Out here NBC, CBS & ABC do their local at 11, Fox does 10 & 11. CW(?)
Does 10, but it's the NBC affiliate crew.

Around here Fox does their evening news at 10pm-11pm, and 11pm to
11:30pm. Repeats at 1-2:30 am.

Our former UPN outlet does news at 9:00pm.

[Natalie Teeger]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:02:11 -0700, "Clifford T. Newsome"

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
So what is NBC going to do in September? Are they going to show L&O SVU, a
truly creepy series of late that sometimes seems too adult for even 10 pm,
at 9 pm? Will those who like Leno (I'm obviously not one of them, a Dave guy
all the way) stick around for Conan (let alone Fallon and the even later
dude)? Will the really sickening reality junk (the obese reality players and
Trump, can't decide who's more repulsive) finally leave the airwaves?
Aside from the fact that most stocks suck these days, I'm sure glad I never
owned GE. Especially if Donaghy ends up running things!

Has NBC said what they plan to do in September? Maybe run Leno at 10
pm and then Law & Order and other shows at 10:30-11:30?

I can't see Leno running more than a half hour.

[David E. Milligan]

The Rumor Mill has started grinding--
http://thetvaddict.com/
After two years of following Obama on the campaign trail, our favorite fictional
overachiever has traded in her press credentials for a shiny new lab coat.

Rory Gilmore, or as she's known outside of Stars Hollow as actress Alexis Bledel, will be
scrubbing into ER's two-hour series finale this Thursday playing new intern Dr. Julia Wise.

Help spread this completely unsubstantiated rumor that Alexis Bledel's guest spot on ER is
actually serving as a backdoor pilot for a spin-off that will reunite Bledel with GILMORE GIRLS
co-hort Paris Geller in a new John Wells hospital drama revolving around young interns

[Ellen K Hursh]

    The Rumor Mill has started grinding--
   http://thetvaddict.com/
        After two years of following Obama on the campaign trail, our favorite fictional
overachiever has traded in her press credentials for a shiny new lab coat.
        Rory Gilmore, or as she's known outside of Stars Hollow as actress Alexis Bledel, will be
scrubbing into ER's two-hour series finale this Thursday playing new intern Dr. Julia Wise.

Was she the one angsting about how she can't handle being an ER doc?

[MDH]

Post by Ellen K Hursh
Was she the one angsting about how she can't handle being an ER doc?

Yes, ala Carter early on.

[Cory]

Post by MDH

Post by Ellen K Hursh
Was she the one angsting about how she can't handle being an ER doc?

Yes, ala Carter early on.

For all of the little "throwbacks" to either the pilot or the VERY early
days of the show that occurred last night, I didn't get sick of any of
that.

Quite frankly, even though, yes, there were little things that bugged
me, I LOVED the finale. It felt like the ER of the first 3-5 years for
the first time in, oh, ten years or so. ;-)

--- Cory

[MDH]

Post by Cory
Quite frankly, even though, yes, there were little things that bugged
me, I LOVED the finale. It felt like the ER of the first 3-5 years for
the first time in, oh, ten years or so. ;-)

This season has been closer to the first years than the recent years IMHO.
I wanted to watch this season because I wanted to watch them end it, but
I've not been able to get in to it the previous 5 seasons or so. This
season I skipped 2 episodes, Abby's last one, and one that our local
Affilate joined "Already in progress" but willingly watched the rest.

[Ellen K Hursh]

Post by Cory

Post by MDH

Post by Ellen K Hursh
Was she the one angsting about how she can't handle being an ER doc?

Yes, ala Carter early on.

For all of the little "throwbacks" to either the pilot or the VERY early
days of the show that occurred last night, I didn't get sick of any of
that.
Quite frankly, even though, yes, there were little things that bugged
me, I LOVED the finale.  It felt like the ER of the first 3-5 years for
the first time in, oh, ten years or so. ;-)

Yep. They got rid of all (or most) of the heavy angsty stuff amongst
the staff, and concentrated on bringing back the whimsy that's been
lacking - never would have had a "Hallucinating Trombone Guy" these
last however many seasons.

[Clifford T. Newsome]

Post by Natalie Teeger
Has NBC said what they plan to do in September? Maybe run Leno at 10
pm and then Law & Order and other shows at 10:30-11:30?
I can't see Leno running more than a half hour.

My understanding is that Leno's show will still run one hour.

I like most of the characters on SVU, but as I said, its subject matter
makes it a very unlikely 9 pm show. But what else can NBC do? Perhaps they
won't run Leno five nights a week, and leave the 10 pm slot open on Friday.
NUMB3RS is doing quite well there for CBS.

[Cory]

In article <LG5Al.46280$***@newsfe08.iad>, ***@nospam.com
says...

Post by Clifford T. Newsome

Post by Natalie Teeger
Has NBC said what they plan to do in September? Maybe run Leno at 10
pm and then Law & Order and other shows at 10:30-11:30?
I can't see Leno running more than a half hour.

My understanding is that Leno's show will still run one hour.
I like most of the characters on SVU, but as I said, its subject matter
makes it a very unlikely 9 pm show.

Are you saying 9 EST, or what the hey??? Because here in Wisconsin, the
central time zone, SVU, along with ER, has ALWAYS run at 9 PM, which
would mean both shows ran at 10 PM on the east coast. It's a fine time
to run SVU in either time zone, AFAIC.

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
But what else can NBC do? Perhaps they won't run Leno five nights a week,

I don't see Leno's show lasting more than a month, to be honest with
you.

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
and leave the 10 pm slot open on Friday. NUMB3RS is doing quite well there for CBS.

--- Cory

[sharon]

Post by Cory
says...

Post by Clifford T. Newsome

Post by Natalie Teeger
Has NBC said what they plan to do in September? Maybe run Leno at 10
pm and then Law & Order and other shows at 10:30-11:30?
I can't see Leno running more than a half hour.

My understanding is that Leno's show will still run one hour.
I like most of the characters on SVU, but as I said, its subject matter
makes it a very unlikely 9 pm show.

Are you saying 9 EST, or what the hey??? Because here in Wisconsin, the
central time zone, SVU, along with ER, has ALWAYS run at 9 PM, which
would mean both shows ran at 10 PM on the east coast. It's a fine time
to run SVU in either time zone, AFAIC.

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
But what else can NBC do? Perhaps they won't run Leno five nights a week,

I don't see Leno's show lasting more than a month, to be honest with
you.

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
and leave the 10 pm slot open on Friday. NUMB3RS is doing quite well there for CBS.

--- Cory

I think Leno might last until Christmas, just because it will take that long
for NBC to give up on it and to get replacements fired up. NBC has invested
a fair amount of cash and effort into this primetime Leno venture. Maybe
it's because they really think it's the next great idea in primetime
viewing, but, more likely, it's cheaper and requires less creativity than
developing actual new programs. I don't see any way that Leno will succeed,
though. The best they could hope for is to fill the 10PM slot with it once
or twice a week over the long haul.

Sharon

[MDH]

Post by sharon
I don't see any way that Leno will succeed,
though.

I think he can succeed in that slot, but not 5 nights a week.

[Paul Bearer]

Post by Cory

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
I like most of the characters on SVU, but as I said, its subject matter
makes it a very unlikely 9 pm show.

Let me put it this way: SVU will be back, it's the most succesful of
the L&O franshise. whether that means 10:30 pm, 11:30 pm, or 9pm it
will be back.

Post by Cory
I don't see Leno's show lasting more than a month, to be honest with
you.

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
and leave the 10 pm slot open on Friday. NUMB3RS is doing quite well there for CBS.

--- Cory

Maybe takes a page from CBS's crime time series and runs SVU at 11:30
pm?

They ran Forever Knight in that time slot.

[Natalie Teeger]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:56:38 -0400, Natalie Teeger

Post by Natalie Teeger
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:02:11 -0700, "Clifford T. Newsome"

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
So what is NBC going to do in September? Are they going to show L&O SVU, a
truly creepy series of late that sometimes seems too adult for even 10 pm,
at 9 pm? Will those who like Leno (I'm obviously not one of them, a Dave guy
all the way) stick around for Conan (let alone Fallon and the even later
dude)? Will the really sickening reality junk (the obese reality players and
Trump, can't decide who's more repulsive) finally leave the airwaves?
Aside from the fact that most stocks suck these days, I'm sure glad I never
owned GE. Especially if Donaghy ends up running things!

Has NBC said what they plan to do in September? Maybe run Leno at 10
pm and then Law & Order and other shows at 10:30-11:30?
I can't see Leno running more than a half hour.

Our NBC affiliate (WHDH) has angered NBC by announcing that
it will run news at 10pm and not carry Leno.

NBC is making noise about pulling their affiliation.

So maybe the NBC affiliate in Boston will be the former UPN
outlet?

Apparently HDH violated the terms of the affiliation agreement.

[r***@emailprivate.com]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:02:11 -0700, "Clifford T. Newsome"

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
So what is NBC going to do in September? Are they going to show L&O SVU, a
truly creepy series of late that sometimes seems too adult for even 10 pm,
at 9 pm?

It should be noted SVU is the highest rated L&O show.

Maybe they'll break for news at 10:30 then run SVU?

[MDH]

Post by Clifford T. Newsome
The strange thing is I've enjoyed the last several episodes of ER more
than I have for quite some time. I'm sure it has to do with the return
of the familiar faces. To take just one example, Noah Wyle is acting
rings around many of the regulars.

This season hasn't been perfect by a long shot, but it's been much better
than it has been. Probably the best since Mark left.