Discussion:
Jeanie Boulet's Locker ID (The Book of Abby)
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Lerxst Pratt
2008-10-20 00:40:22 UTC
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It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?

I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
Alison Dubois
2008-10-20 02:44:52 UTC
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I was just watching this episode on the DVR.....
i have to say for all the Abby bashing i've
done over recent yesra this episode actually
brought me to tears. I must be loosing it.....
KStahl
2008-10-20 02:55:37 UTC
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Post by Alison Dubois
I was just watching this episode on the DVR.....
i have to say for all the Abby bashing i've
done over recent yesra this episode actually
brought me to tears. I must be loosing it.....
Not a real good idea to cry over a TV character. They are a creature of
the writers and producers. Interesting drama, but nothing more then
that. Remember, TV shows like ER are fictional and the only reason they
exist is to drive revenue for the networks.
Hunter
2008-10-23 11:17:58 UTC
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Post by KStahl
Post by Alison Dubois
I was just watching this episode on the DVR.....
i have to say for all the Abby bashing i've
done over recent yesra this episode actually
brought me to tears. I must be loosing it.....
Not a real good idea to cry over a TV character. They are a creature of
the writers and producers. Interesting drama, but nothing more then
that. Remember, TV shows like ER are fictional and the only reason they
exist is to drive revenue for the networks.
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I am not as cynical as you. I think any artist, producer, writer,
director, performer, would be pleased to have someone so emotionally
invested. Books, plays, songs, Golden Age movies etc. have brought
out emotions in people. Why not a TV show? You invest yourself
emotionally for years for a TV show, particularly a particular
character-for good or ill-so it is only natural to feel loss. In
order to drive revenue, you have to get people to invest emotionally,
and the only way to do that, is to have good writing.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
DLCandC
2008-10-20 19:45:27 UTC
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Post by Alison Dubois
I was just watching this episode on the DVR.....
i have to say for all the Abby bashing i've
done over recent yesra this episode actually
brought me to tears.  I must be loosing it.....
Yep, you MUST be losing it! I think there are medications that on on
the market that may be able to help you w/ this problem. ;-)
----
Lori1
Clifford T. Newsome
2008-10-22 18:13:08 UTC
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Post by Alison Dubois
I was just watching this episode on the DVR.....
i have to say for all the Abby bashing i've
done over recent yesra this episode actually
brought me to tears. I must be loosing it.....
Try putting some glue on ... that will tighten it right back up.
Lindsay Oliver
2008-10-21 20:57:12 UTC
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Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
In "The Peace of Wild Things," Jeanie removed her nameplate from her
locker and took it with her when she left. So if the writers
intentionally left her off the wall because of that, that's some
amazing continuity right there.
Cory
2008-10-22 03:12:12 UTC
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Post by Lindsay Oliver
Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
In "The Peace of Wild Things," Jeanie removed her nameplate from her
locker and took it with her when she left. So if the writers
intentionally left her off the wall because of that, that's some
amazing continuity right there.
Continuity? These days?

On ER??

I'm shocked... SHOCKED, I tell ya.

--- Cory
M. Halbrook
2008-10-22 19:48:45 UTC
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Post by Lindsay Oliver
In "The Peace of Wild Things," Jeanie removed her nameplate from her
locker and took it with her when she left. So if the writers
intentionally left her off the wall because of that, that's some
amazing continuity right there.
More likely they just forgot it.
Heidi
2008-10-24 12:06:01 UTC
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Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
There were a few names I didn't recognize, but my first thought was
how did Haleh know that only these people are on TV, so I won't save
the nameplates of all the other 100's of people who must have worked
in the ER for the last 14 years. I know it was a device for TV, but
they should have had other nameplates around and a section for our
favorites, would have made it more realistic.

Heidi
Dilly
2008-10-24 14:46:38 UTC
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Anyone have a screen shot of that wall?
I would love a better look at it
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people will never forget how you made them feel.
Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
There were a few names I didn't recognize, but my first thought was
how did Haleh know that only these people are on TV, so I won't save
the nameplates of all the other 100's of people who must have worked
in the ER for the last 14 years. I know it was a device for TV, but
they should have had other nameplates around and a section for our
favorites, would have made it more realistic.

Heidi
Dropping The Helicopter
2008-10-28 06:42:09 UTC
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Alison Dubois
2008-10-28 14:50:10 UTC
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:42:09 GMT, Dropping The Helicopter
Post by Dropping The Helicopter
- "J.ORMAN"?
- "SALAMUNOVICH"?
- "L. WOODWARD"?
- "B. AROLLO"?
Oh wait, let me guess, those are TEERPTB. Except for "J.ORMAN",
she's that gal on PBS that's always telling you how to "take control of
your finances". Huh. And here I'd have thought having your name in the
credits already would have been embarrassing enough.
That is Susie Orman and she is on CNBC.
Cory
2008-10-28 22:04:46 UTC
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Post by Alison Dubois
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:42:09 GMT, Dropping The Helicopter
Post by Dropping The Helicopter
- "J.ORMAN"?
- "SALAMUNOVICH"?
- "L. WOODWARD"?
- "B. AROLLO"?
Oh wait, let me guess, those are TEERPTB. Except for "J.ORMAN",
she's that gal on PBS that's always telling you how to "take control of
your finances". Huh. And here I'd have thought having your name in the
credits already would have been embarrassing enough.
That is Susie Orman and she is on CNBC.
I am admittedly nitpicking, so go ahead and flame if you must, but it's
"Suze".

--- Cory
Hunter
2008-10-29 07:33:55 UTC
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Post by Heidi
Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
There were a few names I didn't recognize, but my first thought was
how did Haleh know that only these people are on TV, so I won't save
the nameplates of all the other 100's of people who must have worked
in the ER for the last 14 years. I know it was a device for TV, but
they should have had other nameplates around and a section for our
favorites, would have made it more realistic.
Heidi
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Actually there were a few names that we don't know like "N. BAER" "B.
Arollo" and a "Salamunovich"

In the TV fantasy world Cook County General Hospital existed before
March 17, 1994 (St. Patrick's Day and CCGH will exist after the last
episode) so I would guess those were co-workers who left CCGH before
the series premired and Haleh knew them and were close to them.

Anyone know the in show number of years that RN Haleh Adams has
worked at CCGH?
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Ellen K Hursh
2008-10-29 07:43:34 UTC
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Post by Hunter
Anyone know the in show number of years that RN Haleh Adams has
worked at CCGH?
I thought she said something, back when Susan was looking to adopt
little Susie? I'd check the DVD, but I have another project going
that's tied up the DVD player. (That, and I simply can't be arsed to
go to the trouble.)
DLCandC
2008-10-29 21:58:26 UTC
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Post by Hunter
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Post by Heidi
Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
There were a few names I didn't recognize, but my first thought was
how did Haleh know that only these people are on TV, so I won't save
the nameplates of all the other 100's of people who must have worked
in the ER for the last 14 years.  I know it was a device for TV, but
they should have had other nameplates around and a section for our
favorites, would have made it more realistic.
Heidi
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Actually there were a few names that we don't know like "N. BAER" "B.
Arollo" and a "Salamunovich"
Neal Baer is a writer for the show. Arollo (Gahndi Bob) worked in the
makeup department. Salamunovich was a producer.
Post by Hunter
In the TV fantasy world Cook County General Hospital existed before
March 17, 1994 (St. Patrick's Day and CCGH will exist after the last
episode) so I would guess those were co-workers who left CCGH before
the series premired and Haleh knew them and were close to them.
Anyone know the in show number of years that RN Haleh Adams has
worked at CCGH?
I'm not sure but in like the 1st or 2nd season, Haleh said she had
worked there about 15 years already.

----
Lori1
Post by Hunter
--
----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
 a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
               -----William J. McDonald
           Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Hunter
2008-10-31 05:40:29 UTC
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Post by DLCandC
Post by Hunter
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Post by Heidi
Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
There were a few names I didn't recognize, but my first thought was
how did Haleh know that only these people are on TV, so I won't save
the nameplates of all the other 100's of people who must have worked
in the ER for the last 14 years.  I know it was a device for TV, but
they should have had other nameplates around and a section for our
favorites, would have made it more realistic.
Heidi
-----
Actually there were a few names that we don't know like "N. BAER" "B.
Arollo" and a "Salamunovich"
Neal Baer is a writer for the show. Arollo (Gahndi Bob) worked in the
makeup department. Salamunovich was a producer.
---
Ah an Easter Egg of sorts LOL! Okay, they used real names attached to
the show as past doctors and nurses on ER that left CCGH before March
17, 1994.
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Post by Hunter
In the TV fantasy world Cook County General Hospital existed before
March 17, 1994 (St. Patrick's Day and CCGH will exist after the last
episode) so I would guess those were co-workers who left CCGH before
the series premired and Haleh knew them and were close to them.
Anyone know the in show number of years that RN Haleh Adams has
worked at CCGH?
I'm not sure but in like the 1st or 2nd season, Haleh said she had
worked there about 15 years already.
----
If that is true then Haleh is closing in on 30 years she has worked
there. If that is the case then there should be a lot more unfamiliar
names on the wall. Of course, it could be said that she only started
the tradition a couple of years before 1994 so she wouldn't have all
the nameplates of the people she was close to.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
sharon
2008-10-30 16:58:09 UTC
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Post by Hunter
Actually there were a few names that we don't know like "N. BAER" "B.
Arollo" and a "Salamunovich"
In the TV fantasy world Cook County General Hospital existed before
March 17, 1994 (St. Patrick's Day and CCGH will exist after the last
episode) so I would guess those were co-workers who left CCGH before
the series premired and Haleh knew them and were close to them.
And, of course, in real life, the names were in tribute to Teresa
Salumnovich and Neil Baer, former producers of ER; and the late 'Ghandi Bob'
Arollo, makeup artist on the show for many years.

Sharon
Brett Bastable
2008-10-27 05:26:21 UTC
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Would Morgenstern have had a locker in the ER? He seemed to flit in from
upstairs most of the time, and was a surgeon primarily, so ... no locker
name tag for Haleh to grab?

I find it more interesting that this is the first time we've seen or heard
anything of this tradition. And, if it is such an important tradition, why
are the names buried in the basement / mechanical room where hardly anyone
could find them, even if they wanted to?

Weird ... just weird.
--
Brett Bastable Calgary, Alberta
Post by Lerxst Pratt
It wasn't on the wall. Anyone else notice?
I'm also surprised that Maggie Doyle was there, but not Morgenstern. Any
other notable omissions?
sharon
2008-10-27 22:46:59 UTC
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Post by Brett Bastable
Would Morgenstern have had a locker in the ER? He seemed to flit in from
upstairs most of the time, and was a surgeon primarily, so ... no locker
name tag for Haleh to grab?
Considering that Benton, Romano and Corday all had name tags on the wall, I
think Morgenstern qualified. He was ER Chief, after all.
Post by Brett Bastable
I find it more interesting that this is the first time we've seen or heard
anything of this tradition. And, if it is such an important tradition,
why are the names buried in the basement / mechanical room where hardly
anyone could find them, even if they wanted to?
Weird ... just weird.
It was too contrived for my taste. Didn't make any sense that no one knew
about it but Haleh or that it was in such an isolated place. Why bother if
no one knows they're there?

Sharon
Mark Nobles
2008-10-28 01:47:59 UTC
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Post by sharon
Post by Brett Bastable
I find it more interesting that this is the first time we've seen or heard
anything of this tradition. And, if it is such an important tradition,
why are the names buried in the basement / mechanical room where hardly
anyone could find them, even if they wanted to?
Weird ... just weird.
It was too contrived for my taste. Didn't make any sense that no one knew
about it but Haleh or that it was in such an isolated place. Why bother if
no one knows they're there?
Perhaps it is Haleh's version of a scrapbook she keeps to remind her of
the people she used to work with.
sharon
2008-10-28 16:15:43 UTC
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Post by Mark Nobles
Post by sharon
Post by Brett Bastable
I find it more interesting that this is the first time we've seen or heard
anything of this tradition. And, if it is such an important tradition,
why are the names buried in the basement / mechanical room where hardly
anyone could find them, even if they wanted to?
Weird ... just weird.
It was too contrived for my taste. Didn't make any sense that no one knew
about it but Haleh or that it was in such an isolated place. Why bother if
no one knows they're there?
Perhaps it is Haleh's version of a scrapbook she keeps to remind her of
the people she used to work with.
If that's the case, why would she hang them in a storeroom where anyone
might find them and remove them? Wouldn't it make more sense for her to
take them home and display them there or to put them in her locker or
someplace where no one else could get at them? It just seemed very
contrived to me that she would've been doing this for so many years without
anyone finding them and telling someone else or dismantling it.

Sharon
Hunter
2008-10-29 11:09:07 UTC
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says...
Post by sharon
Post by Mark Nobles
Post by sharon
Post by Brett Bastable
I find it more interesting that this is the first time we've seen or heard
anything of this tradition. And, if it is such an important tradition,
why are the names buried in the basement / mechanical room where hardly
anyone could find them, even if they wanted to?
Weird ... just weird.
It was too contrived for my taste. Didn't make any sense that no one knew
about it but Haleh or that it was in such an isolated place. Why bother if
no one knows they're there?
Perhaps it is Haleh's version of a scrapbook she keeps to remind her of
the people she used to work with.
If that's the case, why would she hang them in a storeroom where anyone
might find them and remove them? Wouldn't it make more sense for her to
take them home and display them there or to put them in her locker or
someplace where no one else could get at them? It just seemed very
contrived to me that she would've been doing this for so many years without
anyone finding them and telling someone else or dismantling it.
Sharon
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Guys, it was supposed to be a touching moment, that is all. Fanwank:
Haleh took most of the people who had left over the years there as
her personal goodbye. We were just seeing it for the first time. When
Archie goes he will see it as well. Neela, Sam, Tony etc, when their
time comes she will take them there. They will be as surprised as
Abby was. Uou can't share it immediately if it is in a scape book
somewhere. Putting it in a scapbook will have no "Wow!" effect.
Hanging on the wall is in a way saying they are still part of the
place somehow.

Also, it is possible that NO ONE has been to that room in YEARS given
the level of maintainance at county LOL!!
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
M. Halbrook
2008-10-28 20:09:01 UTC
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Post by Brett Bastable
Would Morgenstern have had a locker in the ER? He seemed to flit in
from upstairs most of the time, and was a surgeon primarily, so ... no
locker name tag for Haleh to grab?
No different than Benton having one.
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